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Ian



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PostSubject: Custom Coilovers.   Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:47 pm

As some of you may know, I am building a Nissan 240SX into a Group 2 rally car (check my sig).

During my build I have run into a few issues due to the lack of rally history surrounding the 240SX. One of the major hurdles, is the availability of rally capable suspension. Everybody and their brother is trying to lower their 240s, I want to raise mine. Instead of spending $5000 on custom DMS, Ive decided to build my own.

I got started building my coilovers by taking the OE strut/springs to work to press off the springs.



The spring and all the mounting stuff on the left, is useless to me.



I started by drilling a small hole in the bottom of the strut tube to drain the oil. These struts were blown, so there was no pressure left in them. If you have unblown struts, be very careful.



After letting what oil I could out, I cut off the factory spring perches. It helps if you cut them in half.



With the seat off, all thats left is a bead of weld, this will serve as the support for the new seats.



With the seat off, I then cut around the top cap.



And I slid out the old damper.



Bare tubes. Man they are dirty.



Cleaned off all the nasty old paint, and rust buildup. The tubes themselves are actually in pretty good shape, despite all the surface rust.



As you can see, the new inverted monotube Bilstiens i am using are not quite as long as the factory dampers. This is not ideal for rally, as I would like to have as much travel as possible but I had to start somewhere. At a later date I may switch to a longer unit, though I need to do more research. For the price I can afford to play around. The benefit to everyone else is, a damper this long is perfect for most S chassis owners as it makes lowering the car easier.



I decided to chop the bottom of the tube off. This will allow me to make the most of the travel I will have, while also increasing ride height slightly.



chopped.





Thats better.



I cut a 2" disk out of 11 gauge steel. This will be the new cap.





The I drilled a hole. The new dampers are bolted to the bottom of the tubes.



Tacked in place.



Solid as a rock. I ran the welder real hot to get good penetration.



Cleaned up.





Stock vs shortened.





Test fitting the damper. Fits like a glove.



I will need to modify the upper spring seat, and pillowball mount, but just for fun I put everything else together temporarily. I am using ground control coilovers, Eibach springs, and Tein pillowball camber plates.





Once I have both tubes modified I will paint them. Im thinking silver, what do you guys think?

I hope to pick up new hardware tomorrow or Tuesday. Hopefully I can get both tubes modified and painted by the end of the week. Then it will be time to start on the rears.
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Riggle



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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:42 am

Baller. I am about to embark on the same path, however I will be buying housings and Koni 8211 shocks with Tein F&R camber plates/Ground control. Very similar to yours, I just dont have the skill/facilities to make my own housings.

Nice work, cant wait to see the end product!
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:17 am

Looks good, i would go with a silver of some sort on the housings or even a nice black. I never thought about rally racing a 240sx. But after you mentioned it i realised as well that there isnt much support in the suspension department for what you are gonna do with the car.

very cool project.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:15 am

Very cool indeed. Great build.
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Ian



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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:03 am

insane imports wrote:
Looks good, i would go with a silver of some sort on the housings or even a nice black. I never thought about rally racing a 240sx. But after you mentioned it i realised as well that there isnt much support in the suspension department for what you are gonna do with the car.

very cool project.


Im stuck between Silver, and Bilstien yellow. Im going to wait till I have the rears assembled to decide on a color.
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pandorasbox



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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:06 pm

This is very impressive! Great idea man, there certainly isn't a shortage of aftermarket support for HP.

I'm assuming to get started you need to have a 2wd non-turbo car? Have you rallied before?
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:51 am

wow dude this is sick iv never herd of n body doing n thing like this b4 good job. i will deff be watching the progress. and i think you should go with the yellow i.m.o.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:57 am

This is an excellent idea. I am slightly curious which groundcontrol sleeves you seleted that will fit the factory nissan strut tubes. What spring rates are you going to give a try?
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:29 am

eidk wrote:
This is an excellent idea. I am slightly curious which groundcontrol sleeves you seleted that will fit the factory nissan strut tubes. What spring rates are you going to give a try?


Ground control sleeves are actually pretty universal, they only have a couple sizes, I just had them send me the correct ID in the length I wanted. As for springs, I got 8" high by 300 lb inch front, and 225 lb inch rear. I think the springs might be too short, but we will see. I have not had a chance to work on the suspension as I got the caged car back, and Ive been wrapping things up, and getting seats mounted so I can paint.
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Ian



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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:37 pm

Finished up the coils.

Other tube welded up.



Cleaned up, and spring perches reinforced.







Coated with zinc phosphate.





POR 15





And Primer





And paint.



Color isn't quite what I had wanted, but its close.




Reassembled and set aside for later.



And installed on the front of the car.



Talk about ground clearance.



The nice thing is, I could build these any way I want. I could make them shorter, or even taller if I wanted too. I cant wait to get out and test these on some gravel.

Dont forget to check out the whole build at 240SX rally car buildup.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:05 pm

Looking good! You should have plenty of clearance how its sitting right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:52 pm

Excellent work, I’ll defiantly be referring back to this when I start hacking up one of my stock setups.
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Ian



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PostSubject: Re: Custom Coilovers.   Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:32 am

BusinessMan_24 wrote:
Excellent work, I’ll defiantly be referring back to this when I start hacking up one of my stock setups.


If you do, shoot me an email, and I can give you the specs on the dampers. I think Nissan used the same diameter strut tubes for most of their vehicles.
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